There's something going on in the country. Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris in a landslide. That was unexpected. How did the pundits not see it coming. Here's a transcript of a phone call from Mont, the resident entrepreneur here at the Purdue Commercialization Center. Listen... er... I mean, read. Transcript from Monday, October 28, 2024. |
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JED - Hey, everybody, it's Jed. This is the JED’s Journal podcast. I hope that you will go to Apple or Spotify and listen to it when you're driving around or on vacation or whatever. Today's November 9th. It's four days after Donald Trump was elected president for the second time over Kamala Harris.
It was a little surprising how the Republican majority became a super majority, both here in Indiana and in America, as the Republican Donald Trump has the House, the Senate, the presidency and the Supreme Court. This cut from my show is from a few days before the election. It was actually the day after Donald Trump's big rally at Madison Square Garden.
The the rally at Madison Square Garden was certainly a feel good experience for followers of Donald Trump, similar to the rally right before the election, similar to when Barack Obama came through in 2008 and he had his last rally just a couple of blocks from where I'm sitting right now. That was at Wicker Park in Highland, Indiana. There was a lot of feel good there amongst Democrats. I remember coming on the air the next day going, “I just wonder when it goes too far.”
I said, “hey, all the people there were partaking of the magic dust.” I wondered out loud if problems would come from that kind of cult like leadership in America. And I pointed some of the similarities out to the Madison Square Garden rally of Donald Trump. And as you're going to hear with Mont, he didn't really like it.
Donald Trump is coming into office right at this point in 2024, and we really don't know what he's going to do. But he's going to do something. I'd like to get some of these phone calls and some of this tape into our vault and on this podcast and into my blog so we can kind of look at a couple of things.
- What did all the pollsters miss in America? There was a red wave of Donald Trump supporters that pushed him into office fairly convincing even though all polls showed it a dead heat of even Trump behind.
- Are there clues now from supporters about what Donald Trump is eventually going to do. There's plenty of things that could happen. When you listen to this in the future, you’ll have the answers. We don’t right now.
It sounds like Mont and I aren’t getting along in this clip from my morning show. But that’s not the case. Mont calls my show on a regular basis. His office is right next to mine here at Purdue. Mont knows that it helps when people candidly tell their opinion, whether you like it or not. It helps the show move along. So here's Mont and me a few days before the 2024 election of Donald Trump.
I open with a little talk about me giving blood. And then we go into the phone call and, I'm Jim Dedelow. I’m JED. And this is JED's Journal podcast. Apple Spotify wherever you get your podcasts. I hope you like it.
From right before the 2024 election on JED in the Region on WJOB am 1230 and FM 104.7.
JED - I want to say thanks to a number of folks at local 697. I went out there and gave some blood on Friday and, ran into, D.J. who is the new president at local 697?
Kurt. Lesnick was there forever. Now it’s DJ who was greeting people as as we came in. I also ran into Jorie Richards. Jorie and I were laughing that I bought WJOB in 2024, and that's when he started with the Indiana Plan, and it was brand new.
The Indiana plan is - how do you get the word out to disadvantaged communities about work in the trades? You can make a lot of money. I got to see a bunch there in the beginning and I was like - how are you going to get into these high schools and tell these kids - “hey, man, you can get a job and make a lot of money.”
And if there's ever been an institution that has just started up a program and was successful, it's the Indiana Plan Jorie ran it and the DJ ran it. Now it’s Emmanuel.
I just had a lot of fun going out to 697. I gave the max and they always take it because I have the kind of blood that you can give to anybody. But the woman said - “you know, you've been here half a dozen times here, to local 697. And you need to drink more water. Okay?
“What do you mean? I need to drink more water?”
She goes - every time you come here, we can’t find your veins. That's a pretty good sign that you're not drinking enough liquids.”
Now my dad drinks a ton of water, and he swears by it. My wife drinks a ton of water. She swears by it. My sister who works here, also. But I don't like drinking water. I played golf with Jeff Tharp, the Times Athlete of the year. Remember him? We have similar bad habits. His is Miller Light. Mine's Bud Light. In other words - He likes goat urine. And I like the King of beers. But, we agree on one thing - we both don’t like drinking water. When I was growing up, you played football. They wouldn't even let you have water.
Anyways. AHey, you're on the air. How are you?
Mont - Good morning, Jim, how are you this morning?
JED - Doing all right?
MONT - Did you get a chance to watch the Joe Rogan Trump podcast while you were playing golf, watching your sports and changing your grandbabies diapers?
JED - I saw some clips and coverage of him keeping all those people waiting while he did Rogan. i
MONT - They weren't as pissed as at Kamala's rally in Houston that was promised to have a Beyonce concert. And then Beyonce came out and spoke for two minutes and walked off stage. I bet you the Trump supporters weren't as pissed as that.
JED - There's a lot of scheduling problems, It's craziness. Trump's campaign, it's craziness. Kamala Harris's campaign, craziness and people trying to land money. And just here it is, you know, put it on the air. It's crazy rhetoric too. But anyways, what's on what's on your mind?
MONT - That crazy rhetoric is kind of the theme of the day right now for the end of this election season. The more that the Democrats and mainstream media refer to Trump as Hitler and call the rally at Madison Square Garden reminiscent of a Nazi rally. It’s just ridiculous. I actually sent you an article this morning.
Kathy Hochul, governor of New York, is out here saying that Trump's sold out Madison Square Garden rally is a white flag of surrender. Where do these people get off that this gaslighting is actually being effective? I just hope they keep it up because it's driving more people away from their party and wanting to vote for Trump.That's what my personal belief is.
JED - Here's what The New York Times says, by Maggie Haberman. And I get her slants are sometimes one way, but she's fairly respected.
“Donald Trump's closing rally at Madison Square Garden was a release of rage, a vivid and at times racist display of the dark energy animating the MAGA movement.
MONT - Now listen, Jim, it's the same old rhetoric, Jim. He's racist. He's misogynist. This comment by the comic about Puerto Rico being a floating island of garbate. It’s misunderstood. That comment about Puerto Rico was in reference to the politicians. They're the two Democratic politicians..
JED - The comic dismissed Puerto Rico as, quote, “a floating island of garbage.”
MONT - They’re corrupt, the Democrats who run the island. The comic was taken out of context. It's always taken out of context. And it's perfectly fine when it's against someone like Trump.They're saying exactly what they're going to do. The Department of Education is going to be gone after January. 90% of federal workers, they're going to be learning how to code or mine coal. Okay. That's what's going to happen because they're saying it right now.
JED - Let’s read some more from Maggie Haberman in the New York Times.
MONT - The Times is not as respected as you think it is. The reason I brought up the Joe Rogan Podcast this morning is because the guy has already 30 million hits. I haven't looked at it this morning. We had 30 million hits in a day and a half, people watching it. This is the change.
It’s the change occurring with the mainstream media right now. They are becoming increasingly irrelevant. And the more and more they call him Hitler, or they call the rest of us deplorables and, you know, Nazi followers and all that kind of stuff. Just like your guest host guest on Tuesday calls us all the time. Tha drives people away from these channels and into the people who are doing the legitimate work journalism, like Joe Rogan, who gave a three hour interview.
Can you imagine giving a three hour interview, JED?
JED - The only one who I got close to an hour with was Andrew Dice Clay. He wouldn’t get off the interview. I said after that - no more celebrities. That was the longest interview of my life. 50 minutes. I've never done an hour interview.
MONT - So you feel an era is ending with mainstream media.
JED - The -
MONT - The era is ending. No paper of record.
JED - I'm hoping what is happening in terms of media is that what I do every day will become the method going forward, as it has been in the past. People can communicate with each other and understand that we're all Americans pushing for the same kind of land of opportunity. But the media is just a reflection of what's out there. And people are divided.
MONT - You're rhetoric right now is very deep and very divisive. And so is the rhetoric on the left. To share with you what I shared with a boss one time who said I was defensive. I said, if you would stop attacking me, I'll stop being defensive.
JED - I thought I said divisive.
MONT - Okay, well, I said defensive. So you know tomato, you say tomato.
JED - So say you are a minority who has been here 20 years and you’re not a citizen. There's several hat walk into this building on a regular basis. They have been here since they were three years old. They hav college degrees from Purdue here. And they're in the workforce, but they're still weren't born here and not full citizens. Do you round them up?
MONT - Let me ask you a question, Jim, before I answer my answer for you. If someone was illegally living in your house, would you allow them to stay? If someone broke into your house and said, hey, I'm living in your spare bedroom now, are you going to kick them out? It's the same thing, right?
JED - I'm asking you literally. There’s one woman and one man who walk by our offices in this building. They just got STEM degrees and are productive members of the Region. But they're not full citizens. They weren't born here. Should we round them up?
MONT - They broke the law or their parents broke the law, and they should not benefit from that illegal act. So should there be programs for people who aren’t born here who don't even speak Spanish anymore or something like that? Should we make special accommodations? Let the legislature make some new law. But let's have it voted on.
Let's not have one party decide - hey, we're going to spend all this money and work with these NGOs illegally to bring these people to break our laws and then give them $10,000 in cash and free housing. This could be divisive to people who served in the military, who are veterans, who are living on the streets right now.
Jim, you do see how underserved populations that are native to this country could be a little jealous of what the new, illegal migrants are getting from our federal government? You can see that right?
JED - We're we're not talking about people that just came over in the last year and are here illegally. I'm talking about people that have been here a long time. That's the danger. And that's what I look at at this rally last night. The rally last night was a point in history, very similar in my mind to what happened here at Wicker Park when Barack Obama came. I said it then and now - people are partaking in the magic dust. And I think there's just a little bit of danger in all of this.
MONT - It is the awakening of the American people we’re watching.
JED - And in 2008 there was a good feeling amongst Barack Obama and all of his many supporters. I was there 30ft from him. Now I didn't go to Madison Square Garden, but I've looked at it and it's kind of similar to what Obama did. Obama was three nights before the election. And with Trump it’s similar.
MONT - Jim, I was right there with you with President Obama when he won. I said, look, this is a good thing for America. Anyone in this country can grow up thinking that they can become president. That was a great thing. But Obama and all of those really radicalized far left Democrats like Pelosi and Harry Reid and all those people, they destroyed this opportunity. They’re causing the division.
Who was the first person to actually start to marginalize conservative Republicans? Who was it? I think it was Obama and Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton who called us a basket of deplorables.
JED - We talked about that. It was a phrase that cost her the election. Do you agree that Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage?
MONT - I would say the people who run Puerto Rico are a bunch of garbage. Yeah, I would agree with that. And that's exactly what that comment was referring to, not the people who live there, not the people who are, you know, doing day to day jobs there. He was referring to the leadership, which is a pile of garbage.
JED - Are Jews cheap? Comments like these were part of the rally last night. It was as if people took away the guardrails and they said what they were thinking. I'm going to say the same thing about what I saw last night and what I saw at Obama's rally in 2008 when I stood there and I came on the air the next day - people are partaking of the magic dust. We lost our sense of ability to analyze what was going on. Ultimately, all of the partaking of the Obama magic dust resulted in a cancel culture and other issues.
A similar thing happens when you laugh at Puerto Rico as a floating Island of Garbage. These are really real things.
MONT - The comic was clearly referring to the leaders of Puerto Rico, Jim.
JED - Kamala Harris is the Antichrist. Tucker Carlson say she's the first Samoan Malaysian low IQ former California prosecutor. These are real things, Mont.
MONT - She is low IQ. Have her go on Joe Rogan for three hours. She would melt down in a puddle of piss.
JED - So in your mind, it's okay to say these things?
MONT - Well, it's perfectly okay for the other side to call us deplorables, to tell Christians that they aren't invited to her rally. That's perfectly okay. It's perfectly okay to call us Nazis and Nazi sympathizers. Perfectly okay.
JED - Not here it’s not. It wasn't okay.
MONT - Jim, you have a host on Tuesday that referred to it as a hoax. Nazi sympathizers can be have their own opinions. Okay, but in general, Trump was not okay.
JED - It was okay to call people a basket of deplorables. All I'm saying is that Trump’s rally last night was like Obama’s in 2008 at Wicker Park.
MONT - People that have government jobs are not going to be okay. Might as well sell their McMansions in McLean right now because their time is done. They're leaving. I love it.
JED - All right. Gotta go. Thanks a lot, Mont. (Hang up)
In 2015, I was just like - just say it, man. Whatever you're feeling and whatever your anger is or whatever your racist thing might be, not that that conversation right now had anythin necessarily racist. But whatever it is, just say it. It was like people were on the cusp of saying it but couldn’t say it. There were guardrails.
Just like now at Madison Square Garden and just like 2008 in Wicker Park here in Indiana. It can be a runaway train. We have to understand that we're all Americans, not just Barack Obama supporters and that is really what kind of happened last night at Madison Square Garden.
Are we going to round up as suggested students that come in here. Purdue Northwest is an HSA. That is a Hispanic serving institution. It's like 28% Hispanic.
I remember 15 years ago when they put my wife's picture on the front page of the website for like two years to tell everybody, hey - it's okay if you're Hispanic and you don't know if you're going to college or whatever. Come here. And she talked to a number of people and recruited them. We did our part, a very small part.
Now do these students come to school wondering - will I be rounded up and sent back to Mexico where my parents were from? I haven’t been there since I was three years old.
Is that where we're headed? I have the same concerns I had that night at Wicker Park in 2008 when Barack Obama spoke around Halloween. Everybody, let's not get carried away.
Barack Obama had a lot of good things that he was saying. But I saw firsthand that we were losing our bearings. And I think that's happening now. How is it okay to say those things? It's not okay then and it’s not okay now. Anyways, I'll be right back on the voice and face of the Calumet Region.